tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post415405600171769446..comments2023-11-04T02:20:07.076-07:00Comments on Avenue to the Sky - Lake Avenue, Pasadena: John and Elizabeth Howard's Ranch, Howard Place, near North Lake Avenue in the 1880'sThal Armathurahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01870045897147257935noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-47744126952034315632018-02-23T13:49:18.033-08:002018-02-23T13:49:18.033-08:00Here is more information on David McPherson:
https...Here is more information on David McPherson:<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Macpherson_(engineer)Thal Armathurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870045897147257935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-45412050507163474852018-02-23T13:47:54.528-08:002018-02-23T13:47:54.528-08:00Hi Randy, all the railroad streets were part of Da...Hi Randy, all the railroad streets were part of David McPherson's, the engineer of the Mt. Lowe Railway, subdivision which was located east of North Lake Avenue. The Howard Ranch was located west of North Lake Avenue. The street name changes which continued names from east to west and west to east happened later and it is easy to see how the streets did not really line up, i.e. Howard, east of Lake was Denver originally, and east of Lake the street is slightly south of the west side due to the streets originally not being aligned and named different. There were originally no railroad names west of North Lake Avenue, this came later after more streets were carved out of the Howard Ranch, beyond Howard and Elizabeth.Thal Armathurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870045897147257935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-6065635522157233842018-02-19T19:19:28.020-08:002018-02-19T19:19:28.020-08:00I had always understood that Elizabeth street had ...I had always understood that Elizabeth street had been originally named Santa Fe (so Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe) while Howard street was originally Denver (so Denver & Rio Grand)... the rest of the names fit this pattern...<br /><br />My Great Grandfather's house was on Atchison, our house was on Topeka... Great Grandfather owned the north west block of Washington and Lake... his bakery on Washington near the park... My Grandfather and myself and brother both went to Longfellow... Randy Heeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10161255161039905903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-71675881209372431672013-12-24T08:51:06.436-08:002013-12-24T08:51:06.436-08:00Good stuff as usual - in the comments too!
So, hav...Good stuff as usual - in the comments too!<br />So, have you finished your research...we're waiting!!Cafe Pasadenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12366911652838118347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-50631227480417179812013-12-20T16:11:45.199-08:002013-12-20T16:11:45.199-08:00I can't wait!I can't wait!Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-49736728823922424822013-12-20T12:58:33.170-08:002013-12-20T12:58:33.170-08:00Thanks Petrea! Something that occured to me recen...Thanks Petrea! Something that occured to me recently in doing this research, is that our small streets such as Howard were much wider when there were no curbs or sidewalks, as we see in much of Altadena today. When the City of Pasadena decided to curb and sidewalk the streets in North Pasadena, apparently in the 1940's, the width of the smaller side streets were severely constricted. Also, it seems that most of our street trees were planted in the parkways, the space between the curb and the sidewalk, at that time. I believe North Lake was also widened in the 1940's, as it had a wider grass parkway than we have now with diagonal parking and two lanes of traffic with double Pacific Electric tracks in the middle. The Pacific Electric overhead wires were held up by telephone poles set in the parkway on both sides of North Lake, rather than being attached to the street light fixtures as was the case in other parts of town. The double street light fixtures we have on North Lake from Topeka north to Woodbury are the original fixtures installed in the 1920's, however, they were painted a dark green back in the day, I believe. There are some great historic pictures of North Lake on <br /><br />http://pasadenadigitalhistory.com/<br /><br />as well, as other interesting photos and documents. I've been doing research on the various ranches in our area such as the Hugus Ranch. Wait until you see what I've found out about that!!!Thal Armathurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870045897147257935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-48301601898259762592013-12-19T20:02:20.801-08:002013-12-19T20:02:20.801-08:00Your posts are always the best, Thal.Your posts are always the best, Thal.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3502357583419605461.post-41817524518475195362013-12-18T13:20:56.272-08:002013-12-18T13:20:56.272-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Steve Finnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863026367048527526noreply@blogger.com